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> obama came off even worse in his debate with romney last night than he did in his debate with clint eastwood. >> by the time michelle gets finished with him last night and this morning... [chuckles] -- you can get your life, obama is not going to sleep at the wheel again. >> you had no record to run on, it's very difficult for the incumbent to come out and combat with governor romney. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real mitt romney, contrast that with a president that seemed -- not seem audio that was uninformed, detached and demonstrated that he had been lazy and disengaged. >> he is president of the united states. just what the hell does he have to prep? what the hell is going on that he doesn't know about? that he has to cram and learn? >> everything that came across in the debate left us with this ending, that the person who looked most presidential, most informed on the economy and the strongest coming out of last night was mitt romney, not our very own president. >> he was distracted. he was not -- he was umm -- as you point ou
> obama came off even worse in his debate with romney last night than he did in his debate with clint eastwood. >> by the time michelle gets finished with him last night and this morning... [chuckles] -- you can get your life, obama is not going to sleep at the wheel again. >> you had no record to run on, it's very difficult for the incumbent to come out and combat with governor romney. mitt romney hit a knockout last night. >> what the people saw last night was the real...
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romney won the debate. when asked who was more likeable, debate watchers gave the two candidates essentially equal marks. that's one piece of spin that doesn't quite pass the sniff test. decide for yourself if this one does from the campaign's ben lebold who suggested mitt romney last night was acting. >> it was performance art. he locked himself into some bad positions that he took during the republican primary, tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas, refusing to ask the wealthiest for a dime to reduce the deficit and those give us big openings to talk about on the campaign trail in key states in the weeks ahead. >> vice president biden, meantime, said his boss did a good job during a bright line between his policies and mitt romney's. >> i think the president did a wonderful job in making it clear just how stark that choice is. >> keeping them honest, that is precisely where the pundits, even those who support president obama, say he dropped the ball and when we asked our viewers whether mr. oba
romney won the debate. when asked who was more likeable, debate watchers gave the two candidates essentially equal marks. that's one piece of spin that doesn't quite pass the sniff test. decide for yourself if this one does from the campaign's ben lebold who suggested mitt romney last night was acting. >> it was performance art. he locked himself into some bad positions that he took during the republican primary, tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas, refusing to ask the...
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just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet. >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that's interesting. >> i don't know. >> that just happened. that was al gore on current tv wednesday explaining the president's poor debate performance. what's your best excuse for the president? what do you make of that? quickly, everyone. sam stein? >> i don't even know. i don't know where to start. that doesn't make sense. i mean it makes some sense. makes no sense. i can better explain mitt romney's good debate programs. he had the cheesecake factory. >> nothing empowers like carbs and sugar. >> romney was at chipotle the 24 hours before and explains his great performance. >> indeed. >> booked debate and agreed to it not realizing it was 20th anniversary, not happy wife. >> my favorite that performed up on twitter the performance enhancing drugs that romney was huffing from the handkerchief. >> always an excuse for everything. thanks again to sam, howard, joy and ben. i'll see you back here monda
just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet. >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that's interesting. >> i don't know. >> that just happened. that was al gore on current tv wednesday explaining the president's poor debate performance. what's your best excuse for the president? what do you make of that? quickly, everyone. sam stein? >> i don't even know. i don't know where to...
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will these new numbers mean lights out for romney's post debate afterglow? new ads kat aare catered to cri inting states. joining me live is jan schakowsky. congresswoman, it's great to have you here. business pioneer jack welch basically calls these numbers into question. had this remark that he tweeted out earlier today saying, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate, so change numbers. what do you say to that? even the white house though right now this morning reluctant to spike the football on this. in their statement saying it is critical we continue the policies that are building an economy that works for the middle cla class as we dig our way out of a deep hole. what is your response to those questioning the validity? >> that's really interesting because i happened to see one of those chicago guys last night. i was with david axelrod. i asked him what do you expect about the jobs numbers? he says, i really don't know. we're hoping it will be good. so, you know, it doesn't surprise me that romney supporters are now
will these new numbers mean lights out for romney's post debate afterglow? new ads kat aare catered to cri inting states. joining me live is jan schakowsky. congresswoman, it's great to have you here. business pioneer jack welch basically calls these numbers into question. had this remark that he tweeted out earlier today saying, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate, so change numbers. what do you say to that? even the white house though right now this...
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when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are these years. so in terms of understanding the historical context of what happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that
when mitt romney beat president obama in last night's televised debate. so the first televised presidential debate that we had was in 1960. here are all of the other years that we have since have televised presidential debates. every four years now we have these debates on tv. the only years, though, so these are all the years, right, right? the only years, though, in which you had an incumbent president running against a challenger in all of the years we've had presidential debates on tv are...
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have a couple more good debates, those all go in the romney column. that was a freudian slip. but at the end of the day, though, the question is committee make up the big difference in ohio? can he make up the big difference in wisconsin? because if he doesn't win ohio, he's got to win wisconsin. the romney people still think he can. after that debate and after barack obama's performance, which was staggeringly bad. >> all right. >> no, i mean it. >> he's right. >> okay. >> i'm hearing this from democrats. and this broke through. we always hear about how americans aren't paying attention. they're looking at reality shows. this broke through, everybody was talking about it, not just how well romney did but how badly the president performed. >> well, just as i think it was premature to declare the race over before, i think it's too soon to say that that performance, as widely watched as it was, is going to move numbers. we have yet to see any numbers move. i think they probably will some. and i think that on the other hand, did governor romney win the d
have a couple more good debates, those all go in the romney column. that was a freudian slip. but at the end of the day, though, the question is committee make up the big difference in ohio? can he make up the big difference in wisconsin? because if he doesn't win ohio, he's got to win wisconsin. the romney people still think he can. after that debate and after barack obama's performance, which was staggeringly bad. >> all right. >> no, i mean it. >> he's right. >> okay....
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today, just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet -- >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that is interesting. >> i don't know, maybe --. bill: did you hear that voice in the background, that's interesting? now, it is true, and it is factual he left vegas around 2:00 in the afternoon. but just on the face, what do you think of that? >> well that may be its effect on vice president gore. i think the president is in peek physical condition. i think he could probably handle 5,000 feet. this is why the president had a problem in the macro explanation, is, people like al gore, suck up to the president. every president lives in a world without pierce, is trapped in this world where nobody can tell him the truth because he is the only president. but i think president more than any other i have seen is surrounded by suck ups, people who reinforce his sense he is above all of this. i think valerie jarrett sat next to mrs. obama during the debate tells the president every day, you're the greatest
today, just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet -- >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust. >> that is interesting. >> i don't know, maybe --. bill: did you hear that voice in the background, that's interesting? now, it is true, and it is factual he left vegas around 2:00 in the afternoon. but just on the face, what do you think of that? >> well that may be its effect on vice...
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opponent, when romney ride to do it in the republican debate it didn't really work when he had a lead at one point he tried to stay above the fray and he engaged gingrich in a later debate and it worked better and i think the challenge for them now, for the obama team now is, they clearly can't follow the strategy in the second debate. what they also want to avoid a situation that happened with al fore where, al gore where you are seeing a different human being on the stage in the second debate than you are in the first debate. >> rose: go ahead. >> i think there is a certain starkness in the debate that you don't have in the convention. the contrast is extraordinary, in a convention, you are idolized 20,000 people in the room all love you, the energy of the crowd carries you on its shoulders, almost what you say doesn't matter long as long as you don't screw up, on a debate, there is a stark contrast because there is a very bare stage, if you look at there is nobody in front of you booing or cheering and you have a moderator and two people and almost like a gladiator and when you hav
opponent, when romney ride to do it in the republican debate it didn't really work when he had a lead at one point he tried to stay above the fray and he engaged gingrich in a later debate and it worked better and i think the challenge for them now, for the obama team now is, they clearly can't follow the strategy in the second debate. what they also want to avoid a situation that happened with al fore where, al gore where you are seeing a different human being on the stage in the second debate...
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did you see what big bird did to romney's car right after the debate? show what happened. look at that. that's unbelievable. that is unbelievable. he is not happy. he is not happy. >> of course obama and romney differed on many subjects throughout the debate. there was one moment where they really came together in perfect harmony. check it out. [ laughter ] >>> and you're in "the situation room." happening now, obama 2.0 smiling, laughing, energized the president's dramatic turnaround from his lackluster debate performance. mitt romney is now admitting his controversial remark about those 47%. he now says that was 100% wrong. and the latest computer scam, hackers holding your vital data for ransom. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> the obama supporters turned out to see the president in cleveland today may have wondered where was this guy on wednesday night. today the president was all fired up. he was punching away at his rival mitt romney. and that was a stark contrast to his ra
did you see what big bird did to romney's car right after the debate? show what happened. look at that. that's unbelievable. that is unbelievable. he is not happy. he is not happy. >> of course obama and romney differed on many subjects throughout the debate. there was one moment where they really came together in perfect harmony. check it out. [ laughter ] >>> and you're in "the situation room." happening now, obama 2.0 smiling, laughing, energized the president's...
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i think you will see a bump in the polls for romney. 67% believed that romney won the debate. that is a stunning number. usually, our side thinks our guy one and their side thinks there got one. -- thinks their guy won. it was pretty decisive. >> explain to a group of people -- i doubt there is an undecided voter in this room. what do undecided voters look like? >> the kind of people who tell the waiter to come back at a restaurant because they have not made up their mind. [laughter] when you look at undecided voters, they generally tend to be younger women than anything else. in this case, i am seeing an even division between men and women. they tend to be more independent. they are either somewhat conservative to moderate. only 18% of the undecided voters in the swing states say the country is going in the right direction. 70% say it is on the wrong track. that is much more negative than the country as a whole. that is why i believe romney is poised to pick up some of them. >> anybody who thinks the next debate will be the same as this one, i think they are making a mistake.
i think you will see a bump in the polls for romney. 67% believed that romney won the debate. that is a stunning number. usually, our side thinks our guy one and their side thinks there got one. -- thinks their guy won. it was pretty decisive. >> explain to a group of people -- i doubt there is an undecided voter in this room. what do undecided voters look like? >> the kind of people who tell the waiter to come back at a restaurant because they have not made up their mind....
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i thought overall romney had the better of the debate. i thought he dispelled stereotypes of individualists. i thought he looked happier to be there. i thought he was certainly more aggressive. and finally i guess i would say the president missed out on a lot of opportunities to mention the 47%, to echo some of the themes the democratic ad campaigns which have been so successful. i thought on balance it was a good night for mitt romney. griewd what did you think about that, mark? >> i was amazed the 47% didn't come up. i think what we saw more than anything the rust from the president not having been in a debate, quite frankly, for four years. and i thought that mitt romney, the challenger always, with the president, gets an advantage, just by being there on the same stage and beeb at least equal. i thought that romney did quite well in making his case. he seemed comfortable. he seemed confident. he didn't seem mean spirited. i was amazed the president didn't rebut the the $716 billion charge. it's a phony charge. it's been-- i mean, it's
i thought overall romney had the better of the debate. i thought he dispelled stereotypes of individualists. i thought he looked happier to be there. i thought he was certainly more aggressive. and finally i guess i would say the president missed out on a lot of opportunities to mention the 47%, to echo some of the themes the democratic ad campaigns which have been so successful. i thought on balance it was a good night for mitt romney. griewd what did you think about that, mark? >> i was...
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they were debated between a win for romney and a tie. on the other hand, they said they were disappointed with the president's performance and it cannot believe he made the case for how another four years would be different or better. making the point that neither one of these guys really connected with voters on a personal level but clearly romney did a superior job of debating it. there's no question romney won the debate. the question is how much does that change things? in terms of national polls, there's no question he will get a few points out of this. the harder and more relative points is, number one, does the move ohio? does he moved the swing voters in these swing states? that's what's really relevant here. i have no idea. in my view, you show me an undecided voter in a swing state, say, ohio, and they have been bombarded by ads since june. the undecideds there were a lot smaller than nationally, four or five points. i had concluded that if you are in ohio and you are still undecided, you may never decide. you're probably not g
they were debated between a win for romney and a tie. on the other hand, they said they were disappointed with the president's performance and it cannot believe he made the case for how another four years would be different or better. making the point that neither one of these guys really connected with voters on a personal level but clearly romney did a superior job of debating it. there's no question romney won the debate. the question is how much does that change things? in terms of national...
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in wednesday's debate you saw romney pushing moderator jim lehrer around pretty much at will. eventually president obama joined in. but here is a flashback of the romney/lehrer face-off from jimmy fallon. >> it's my priority to repeal obama -- >> okay, now, governor romney you are well over the two minute allotted -- >> jim, i still have 30 seconds here on -- >> if -- >> jim, jim -- just politely going to hush you up a bit. >> going to keep you. >> na, na, na. >> respect the governor -- >> jim, do us all a favor and just -- i think it's a little weird that you're here still. you can just leave and do whatever you want. >> no, i'm the moderator here. >> jim -- >> hold on now. i'm going to have to ask you to step down, okay? ja, ja, ja. >> that's just a noise. >> jim, jim, jim, would you shut the [ bleep ] up. >> that was a facsimile i think. more from the debate aftermath. the big bird nonsense continues. how did the former gop candidates feel about the mitt romney pledge to stop funding for pbs if elected president? first, rick santorum last night on cnn. >> would you kill big
in wednesday's debate you saw romney pushing moderator jim lehrer around pretty much at will. eventually president obama joined in. but here is a flashback of the romney/lehrer face-off from jimmy fallon. >> it's my priority to repeal obama -- >> okay, now, governor romney you are well over the two minute allotted -- >> jim, i still have 30 seconds here on -- >> if -- >> jim, jim -- just politely going to hush you up a bit. >> going to keep you. >> na,...
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romney so eloquently said in that debate. talking about politics of the 1% or the 47%, conservatives want the best for all folks, and yes, we mean thewe don't want them trapped in poverty. we want them married, paying their taxes -- host: we will get katrina vanden heuvel's response. guest: yeah. listen, if marriage will promote the well-being of the couple, children, great. but in my mind, it is and not just that. that is too simplistic. it is part of the equation. without good jobs, without ensuring that workers have rights and a time -- at the time when big business is so powerful, without doing small things that happened around this country but have taken too much effort, giving women, families early child care, the sense of a community coming together to lift up families, marriages not sufficient. to reduce it to that is too simplistic. no one is saying marriage isn't important. it is not the only a factor in building a family that is doing well. the fact that jobs to date are low-paying is a terrible problem, and i woul
romney so eloquently said in that debate. talking about politics of the 1% or the 47%, conservatives want the best for all folks, and yes, we mean thewe don't want them trapped in poverty. we want them married, paying their taxes -- host: we will get katrina vanden heuvel's response. guest: yeah. listen, if marriage will promote the well-being of the couple, children, great. but in my mind, it is and not just that. that is too simplistic. it is part of the equation. without good jobs, without...
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claims in the remaining debates. one topic that will surely come up again, the alleged $5 trillion tax cut in governor romney's plan. it's important to note there is no $5 trillion estimate. a nonpartisan tax policy center only forecast cuts for one year under romney's plan, $4 5 billion in 2015 -- $415 billion in 2015. not factoring in tax deductions or loopholes. sam brock, nbc bay area. back to you. >> thank you very much, sam. >>> still ahead at 6:00, we're on the road to record-breaking gas prices. it is painful. what's behind those skyrocketing numbers? >> reporter: good evening, i'm jeff ranieri live in san francisco. how would you like to see a fighter jet, a battleship, and an america's cup world series boat on the bay? you're in luck. this weekend's going to be major. the full forecast coming up. >>> in "health matters," growing concern over a meningitis outbreak that has already killed five people and sickened 35 others. health officials fear that hundreds, possibly thousands could be at risk. all those in
claims in the remaining debates. one topic that will surely come up again, the alleged $5 trillion tax cut in governor romney's plan. it's important to note there is no $5 trillion estimate. a nonpartisan tax policy center only forecast cuts for one year under romney's plan, $4 5 billion in 2015 -- $415 billion in 2015. not factoring in tax deductions or loopholes. sam brock, nbc bay area. back to you. >> thank you very much, sam. >>> still ahead at 6:00, we're on the road to...
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that mitt romney literally lied. he said this, and then last night he changed -- wednesday night he changed it up. about the 47%. for the middle class, he is not. years for the rich people. and all of those on wall street. thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk to you. host: from the washington post, the new fed notes are up from the last meeting. said a felt need for stimulus trumped risks, notes show. federal reserve officials debated the risks of beginning an ambitious new stimulus policy before ultimately giving it a green light, according to minutes of the central bank's september meeting. next is a call from kevin, palm springs, california. an independent this regard but the role of government in your life. caller: i think the president's description of the role of government was spot on. we have to remember the president is a constitutional lawyer. now, mitt romney's description of the government is inaccurate. he talks about -- hear references the preamble to the constitution when he talks about god.
that mitt romney literally lied. he said this, and then last night he changed -- wednesday night he changed it up. about the 47%. for the middle class, he is not. years for the rich people. and all of those on wall street. thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk to you. host: from the washington post, the new fed notes are up from the last meeting. said a felt need for stimulus trumped risks, notes show. federal reserve officials debated the risks of beginning an ambitious new stimulus...
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>>> mitt romney picking up some needed momentum from his performance at the first presidential debate. president obama attempted to turn back some of that criticism by showing, taking a swing back at the gop challenger. listen to this. >> the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. governor romney may dance around his decisions but if you want to be president you owe the american people the truth. >> joining us from washington on the debate fallout is nbc's political director and chief white house correspondent chuck todd. you were there. you talked to a the lo of people afterwards. >> i did. >> what is your best guess what happened. this was a surprise to a lot of people watching in terms of president obama's performance. >> what had the biggest impact on me yesterday, i was at the denver rally, i traveled with him back from denver into madison and obviously his base was enthusiastic, being out there to see him, and i interviewed all these folks asking what they thought of the deb
>>> mitt romney picking up some needed momentum from his performance at the first presidential debate. president obama attempted to turn back some of that criticism by showing, taking a swing back at the gop challenger. listen to this. >> the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. governor romney may dance around his decisions but if you want to be president you owe the...